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 Post subject: dark bakeware/Friendship Bread Starter
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:25 pm 
Am I correct that dark pans bake darker and faster? or something like that :?

I think that may be my problem with my 9x5 loaf pans. I made my Amish Friendship bread last night and I DID lower my oven temp this time (inlike with the banana bread) and it's not quite as "done" as the banana bread but it's dark and dry :( like it shouldn't be.

If the pans are the issue then I think I'll just buy some of those disposable aluminum pans (I don't recall ever having trouble with those) and use them for my breads and save the dark ones for meatloaf. All of my other cake pans (except for my Nordicware bundt) are light colored tin/aluminum type pans.

hmmmmmmmm glad I have a BUNCH more starter in the fridge.

Karen


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:48 pm 
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Karen, you are right in thinking the darker pans bake faster and darker than a light colored one. It should have helped to lower the oven temp. Are you sure about the accuracy of your oven? It really sounds like they still baked at too high a temp, or over baked. Although, for some things it just seems better to use those old shiny pans, like those from the old days. :wink: If you try those disposable pans for this bread, please let us know the difference in the way they bake.


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 Post subject: Thanks Mary
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:51 pm 
I didn't think I was imagining it about the pans. I may make another bread tomorrow and use the shiny pans. I do collect the old tin bundts, etc cake pans. I love 'em and I've found some great ones. I'll post how my little experiment turned out. As I said, luckily I've got plenty of starter stashed.

Karen :o


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Karen, I'm also, anxious to hear how the bread tastes etc, and if it's like sour dough or what? :wink:


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 Post subject: I just remembered that I have a glass
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:36 pm 
9x5 loaf pan. It's the one I usually use for meatloaf. I might try that one on the next round as well. One starter makes 2 loaves (9x5). But they are rather "slim" in height, I'd rather have them higher. So I may even make them 8x4. It's all one big experiment isn't it? I'll let you know when I bake a loaf that's JUST RIGHT!!!

I want one the way I used to make them, light, sweet, high but it's been a long time since I made it. I even carried a starter with me on the plane from California one year when I friend had some going. Needless to say I smelled kinda "yeasty" :lol:

Until later,
Karen


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:14 pm 
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:lol: You take the cake Karen. Yes, by all means it one big experiment, and I'm waiting to see the grand finale. Do you have plenty of tasters or are you having to do all that yourself?


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Hey Mary, I've got a recipe for the friendship bread starter if you want it. I actually started some sour dough bread starter a couple of weekends ago and last weekend I was getting ready to bake and found the friendship bread recipe, so I used that starter and ummmm, the bread was just like I remembered it being. So hollar if you want that starter recipe as well as the bread recipe that uses the starter, cause I've got it...


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Joni, tell me how it tastes. Is it like sour dough or what? I would love to have the recipe since it's one you have already tried, and with the yeast that would be good.

I even have some of my mother's old shiny loaf pans that she used. Those things last forever through many hundreds of loaves. We've been having a debate about different kinds of pan to bake it. What kind of pans do you use for yours, Joni?


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 Post subject: Oh I have plenty of tasters...
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:36 pm 
I am my own worst critic though. DH won't say much about it he's so polite but when I get up in the morning and it's still there...something's wrong. :o

My parents are also big guinea pigs for me!!! Thank goodness.

Karen


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:53 pm 
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I understand, and I'm thinking like you. There is something wrong if it isn't gobbled up pretty quickly. :( Back to the drawing board, Karen. :wink:


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 Post subject: I also am going to alter the recipe
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:40 pm 
After looking at other recipes at allrecipes.com the one I used did not use a pudding, and some other ingredients that may make it more "fresh". So not only am I going to change my pans but I am going to change the recipe.

Karen :shock:


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:14 pm 
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Your the doctor on this one Karen. :D We've gotten so used to adding pudding for the moistness it gives. I don't remember ever trying it in yeast bread, but who knows? It might work. I'm keeping up with you, girl. :D I love the smell of yeast, and what it makes. Joni has a recipe that she is making too, and she has made it before.


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 Post subject: Such power!!!
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:53 pm 
I wish I had the recipe that I used previously but that's long gone. I knew that the one I used last night just didn't seem to have alot of stuff in it, but tried it anyway.

But, I just came back from Kroger and bought a shiny 9x5 pan (although I wanted a Wilton) we'll see how that works. I also bought some applesauce and made sure I had plenty of pudding.

Will try maybe tonight another loaf.

Karen


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 Post subject: Ok drum roll please................
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:38 am 
I used the recipe with applesauce and pudding in it. Instead of vanilla, I chose French vanilla. I used both an 8x4 pyrex loaf and a 9x5 shiny metal pan. Cooked them both about 40 mins at 325. They turned out the way they should. Not dry, not overcooked. In fact DH was really working on it last night.

So I tossed that other. This is yummy but it's without nuts or anything special (didn't want to waste in case it was another disaster). It's a nice little sweet bread not real yeasty tasting. Could be dressed up nicely depending on what you wanted in it.

Success at last.
Karen


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Karen, that's great! That just proves the proof's in the puddin', and your diligence paid off in the end. :wink:


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